"Turkey is a conservative country, it is not as relaxed and liberal about outward expressions of lust. That's uniquely European and congratulations to Europe for that, but you don't have to snicker at Turkey for not feeling the same way."
"When people begin to question Turkey, to fear her intentions and to wish that more lust would come out of her then Turkey has a very big problem. Turkey's problem is Turks' problem. And someone must tell them that. For the sake of all of us!"
"When people begin to question Turkey, to fear her intentions and to wish that more lust would come out of her then Turkey has a very big problem. Turkey's problem is Turks' problem. And someone must tell them that. For the sake of all of us!"
Comments based on the article "Magnificent no more" Jan 27th 2011 | ISTANBUL on the The Economist website.
El Toro Es Guapo wrote:
Jan 28th 2011 4:13 GMT
No one said sex was a dirty act. This particular Sultan accomplished so much out side of the harem, why not concentrate on those historic facts. The fact is "ShowTV" is what it is...a trashy T & A full magazine of a TV station, so people should not be shocked by its productions.
Turkey is a conservative country, it is not as relaxed and liberal about outward expressions of lust.
That's uniquely European and congratulations to Europe for that, but you don't have to snicker at Turkey for not feeling the same way.
Antifon wrote:Jan 28th 2011 6:07 GMT
El Toro, I have argued in the past that Turkey needs more sex to be accepted as "European". You have put it more eloquently.
The problem arises when politicians adopt religious overtones, or even worse make direct references to religion, to either make policy or steer the masses. When the masses' natural tendencies are consrvative (I'd say this is a mild word to describe Turkey but I do not live in the country) and the leader comes across as not being entirely sure what democracy really means then it becomes a problem for Turkey in how she is perceived by the lustful westerners, who also happen to rule today's world.
What makes matters far worse [I forget for now that the country runs on a military constitution] is that the religion in question [the institution, not the faith] is the most immature the world knows in terms of how it interacts with civics/politics. The line of separation is just too blurred and subject to interpretation, an inconceivalble notion for the west. Politicians balancing on a line that is not clearly defined are in fact playing with fire. The Ecomomist would refer to this as "mild" balancing!
When people begin to question Turkey, to fear her intentions and to wish that more lust would come out of her then Turkey has a very big problem. Turkey's problem is Turks' problem. And someone must tell them that. For the sake of all of us!
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